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GUP expanded re release

Started by Thenop, January 20, 2026, 02:38:21 PM

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Thenop

Quote from: Nick on March 13, 2026, 07:57:12 PMObviously all the fans are drawn to the TB remix, not heard any comments on the original remix. I really hope we get a Steven Wilson mix on Power Windows, the peak produced Rush album by the master of the craft.

Brown is very much a 70s/80s producer and mixer. Lots of mid which gives it a warm sound and feel. Exactly the sound signature of that time. And you are right, a lot of people gravitate towards that sound.

GUPs almost futuristic sound is miles away from that, they can exist next to each other.

I am not sure though what Wilson would add to the original mix for PoW but welcome what he has to offer.

Matt2112

Hmmmm...I'm especially skeptical of Steven Wilson approaching something as sacred as PoW; his music is all the Emperor's New Clothes to me and I've read less than favourable reviews of his treatments of other classic albums broadly in the prog genre.

Peter Collins was clearly the best of Rush's producers so I'd err on the side of 'If it ain't broke...' on this one.

Nickslikk2112

Quote from: Matt2112 on March 14, 2026, 01:58:01 AMHmmmm...I'm especially skeptical of Steven Wilson approaching something as sacred as PoW; his music is all the Emperor's New Clothes to me and I've read less than favourable reviews of his treatments of other classic albums broadly in the prog genre.
SW's own music is dull tripe.

IMHO the spatial audios mixes he's done for Yes, Gentle Giant, King Crimson and Jethro Tull are stunning.

The Picnic Wasp

Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 14, 2026, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 14, 2026, 01:58:01 AMHmmmm...I'm especially skeptical of Steven Wilson approaching something as sacred as PoW; his music is all the Emperor's New Clothes to me and I've read less than favourable reviews of his treatments of other classic albums broadly in the prog genre.
SW's own music is dull tripe.

IMHO the spatial audios mixes he's done for Yes, Gentle Giant, King Crimson and Jethro Tull are stunning.

The word tripe holds a special place in my heart now.

It was my start word in Wordle for months and eventually earned me a one line finish

I sort of understand some of the comments about SW's music but I still enjoy it more than most of the new releases these days. No, make that all of the new releases.

I still can't eat the stuff though. I try every few years to find out if my palate has changed enough, but not yet.

R6GYY

I cannot find a price for the Digital Edition anywhere ony the stupidly priced physical editions. 4 CDs + 1 Bluray for £260. That'll be a nope from me.

All I really want is the Dolby Atmos mix.

Meh.

Thenop

Could be me, but the live 'album' sounds, ehm, rough. As in: not fantastic. I get it, it's older, but it's 84 no? They knew how to record audio back then, probably stored poorly.

One more thing about the Brown mix (and then I'll stop): it's clear he revisited all the tracks, but he also brought up some faders he should have buried a bit deeper. The snare sound does not 'pop', I find the whole thing missing a bit of spark to be honest. Mind you, the original mix is missing the body Brown mix has, ideally a combination would be perfect.

dom


Matt2112

The Body Electric is in the lower half of my personal Rush song rankings, so I've been pleasantly surprised at the live version on the expanded concert vid - it's actually very good!

R6GYY

The price on this really does get my back up when I compare it to other collections. I know there are those who will say - well you don't have to buy it. Well of course I'm NOT going to buy it!

For instance, the Thunderbirds 60th Anniversary boxed set which I got recently (a Christmas present, but wasn't actually released until Feb 26).

https://gerryanderson.com/products/thunderbirds-60th-anniversary-collectors-edition-blu-ray-region-abc

They have really gone to town and poured a lot of love into the content of this release - with no less than 11 Bluray discs (yes, 11), 110 page episode guide and 6 posters. A veritable bargain at £89.99.

Rush and Bargain. Not 2 words you are likely to see together these days.

Rant over (for now!).

Thenop

It is no longer 'Rush' calling the shots. They sold these rights years ago. The boys will likely see some of it (maybe a writers credit), but not most. I get the sentiment, they cashed out though and the company they sold it to has to recoup their money.

The Picnic Wasp

I'm no audio standards geek, as you are aware. But listening to the new GUP live release, where does the 'thank you' around 26:50 come from?  I'm puzzled. The Weapon is the work in question.

I listened to it on YouTube but I don't think that would be the cause of a glitch.

Played it over and over. I'm sure I'm not hearing things.

dom

To start with I've always loved GUP.  It was the album that came out closest to when I first got into Rush.  When it came out I think I only had A Farewell to Kings and Permenant Waves in my collection so I was pretty much a novice.

I loved it and I think it stands the test of time - Kid Gloves and Between the Wheels are particular highlights for me but  I like virtually all of it.

I love what Terry Brown has down with his remaster - it sounds warmer and less mechanical.  I like all the little flourishes with keyboard, vocal echo and guitar that weren't there (to these cloth ears anyway).  It gives the songs a fresh feel, no bad thing after 42 years!

Does anyone know if all the "new" elements that are clearly heard now but not in earlier versions are sections that were very low down in the mix and have been pushed forward or whether they are Terry Brown additions?

The Picnic Wasp

Quote from: dom on March 20, 2026, 03:30:51 PMTo start with I've always loved GUP.  It was the album that came out closest to when I first got into Rush.  When it came out I think I only had A Farewell to Kings and Permenant Waves in my collection so I was pretty much a novice.

I loved it and I think it stands the test of time - Kid Gloves and Between the Wheels are particular highlights for me but  I like virtually all of it.

I love what Terry Brown has down with his remaster - it sounds warmer and less mechanical.  I like all the little flourishes with keyboard, vocal echo and guitar that weren't there (to these cloth ears anyway).  It gives the songs a fresh feel, no bad thing after 42 years!

Does anyone know if all the "new" elements that are clearly heard now but not in earlier versions are sections that were very low down in the mix and have been pushed forward or whether they are Terry Brown additions?

Thanks Dom, you saved me a bit of typing there. Loved this album when it happened. I was in a state of total obsession about Rush at that time. Even got a man called Jack Golder to build me a bass & 6 string double neck guitar.

But what about the 'thank you' in the live Weapon? Surely I'm not imagining this.

Slim

Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on March 20, 2026, 03:54:50 PMBut what about the 'thank you' in the live Weapon? Surely I'm not imagining this.

It's just Geddy speaking into a mic, isn't it? Perhaps there was a minor outbreak of applause in the audience.

The Picnic Wasp

Quote from: Slim on March 20, 2026, 04:29:46 PM
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on March 20, 2026, 03:54:50 PMBut what about the 'thank you' in the live Weapon? Surely I'm not imagining this.

It's just Geddy speaking into a mic, isn't it? Perhaps there was a minor outbreak of applause in the audience.

Maybe, but that would be very unusual for him, out of character even. He tended to stick to the script and I've never experienced him deviating from that in a spontaneous way. Must ask Terry next time he's in Glasgow.