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Started by Slim, November 25, 2024, 06:54:17 AM

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Are you in favour of a right to assisted dying?

Yes
6 (66.7%)
No
2 (22.2%)
Unsure
1 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: November 30, 2024, 06:54:17 AM

Nick

Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on November 29, 2024, 09:10:16 PM
Quote from: Matt2112 on November 29, 2024, 08:14:41 PMSimple solution - disestablish the CofE, at the very least. 
AND THEN RETURN TO ROME!!!!

THE COUNTRY WILL SMELL NICER, WE WANT POTPOURRI!!!!!

Isn't that French?

Slim

Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on November 29, 2024, 07:56:06 PMUnbelievably I actually feel quite sorry for King Charles. As supreme head of the Church of England he will have to commit an act of complete hypocrisy by not using royal prerogative to appear to be displeased by this decision. It would only be a token gesture but would be a far too perilous action for him and his.

Not that I give a toss what he thinks, but I think he probably approves.

The Picnic Wasp

Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on November 29, 2024, 09:10:16 PM
Quote from: Matt2112 on November 29, 2024, 08:14:41 PMSimple solution - disestablish the CofE, at the very least. 
AND THEN RETURN TO ROME!!!!

THE COUNTRY WILL SMELL NICER, WE WANT POTPOURRI!!!!!
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Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on November 29, 2024, 09:10:16 PM
Quote from: Matt2112 on November 29, 2024, 08:14:41 PMSimple solution - disestablish the CofE, at the very least. 
AND THEN RETURN TO ROME!!!!

THE COUNTRY WILL SMELL NICER, WE WANT POTPOURRI!!!!!

Yes, thuribles being swung anywhere where smelly people gather. I love the smell of incense.

The Picnic Wasp

Quote from: Slim on November 29, 2024, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on November 29, 2024, 07:56:06 PMUnbelievably I actually feel quite sorry for King Charles. As supreme head of the Church of England he will have to commit an act of complete hypocrisy by not using royal prerogative to appear to be displeased by this decision. It would only be a token gesture but would be a far too perilous action for him and his.

Not that I give a toss what he thinks, but I think he probably approves.

His old fella probably would have. Young Chic probably listened more to his old mum. Just as well his Christmas Day broadcast is filmed whilst the leaves are still on the trees. Lets him off the hook nicely.

David L

Another successful campaign run by the Daily Express   :)

Slim

Quote from: David L on November 30, 2024, 10:56:29 AMAnother successful campaign run by the Daily Express  :)

I hadn't know that they'd run a campaign, but I have to wonder how many MPs were persuaded to change their views by the Express, either directly or via Express-reading constituents? We may never know but it could well be fewer than one.

David L

Quote from: Slim on November 30, 2024, 04:11:13 PM
Quote from: David L on November 30, 2024, 10:56:29 AMAnother successful campaign run by the Daily Express  :)

I hadn't know that they'd run a campaign, but I have to wonder how many MPs were persuaded to change their views by the Express, either directly or via Express-reading constituents? We may never know but it could well be fewer than one.
The Daily Express 'Give Us Our Last Rights' campaign was launched in February 2022. Whilst you may not associate the campaign with the outcome in parliament, there is little doubt in my mind that the continual front page coverage of the issue since that time has contributed to keeping the issue in the public eye. The numerous articles featuring those that had direct experience of loved ones suffering in their last years of life and those that had been forced to go abroad to end their lives would not have gone unnoticed by many constituents and those that represented them.
Probably not hugely influential but, given the time at which it was launched, likely to have had a significant contribution to the debate.

Slim

Pleased and relieved to see that the third reading has passed, seven months later.

I can see that there are certain difficult issues with the principle of assisted dying, and specific issues with the bill itself. But what I think many people overlook is that there are massive issues with the status quo.

This is a private member's bill that is about to become law and will bring about a profound social change, a real historic change. But it's not set in stone forever. Parliament still has the agency to repeal it, or to modify it at a later time.

Slim


Matt2112

I had a wry smile at that sketch only because of its assumption of low expectations.

How many people really have an inheritance at the forefront of their minds and motives when their closest relative may be in their final months?

Slim

Quote from: Matt2112 on September 14, 2025, 07:49:18 PMI had a wry smile at that sketch only because of its assumption of low expectations.

How many people really have an inheritance at the forefront of their minds and motives when their closest relative may be in their final months?

Not none .. although I remain in favour.

Matt2112

Quote from: Slim on September 14, 2025, 07:55:14 PM
Quote from: Matt2112 on September 14, 2025, 07:49:18 PMI had a wry smile at that sketch only because of its assumption of low expectations.

How many people really have an inheritance at the forefront of their minds and motives when their closest relative may be in their final months?

Not none .. although I remain in favour.

Yes, as do I quite strongly, and although there will rightly be safeguards in place which may be effective, I acknowledge they won't be and probably can't be infallible.