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Music => Rush => Topic started by: Nick on July 19, 2025, 09:48:23 PM

Title: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Nick on July 19, 2025, 09:48:23 PM
Bit of a shocker

https://blabbermouth.net/news/watch-rushs-alex-lifeson-joins-tom-morello-for-limelight-performance-in-toronto
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on July 19, 2025, 10:00:59 PM
Just a promotional outing for the Godin signature guitar I expect.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: David L on July 20, 2025, 12:46:16 AM
Oh dear! He should've let Morello handle the solo. Too much weed that day, perhaps.
 ;D
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Slim on July 20, 2025, 12:56:13 AM
Oh dear, oh dear ::)
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on July 20, 2025, 11:58:14 AM
Broken string on a floating bridge it seems. A few guitar tech savvies commenting on it saying it's a nightmare and throws everything out of tune.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Slim on July 20, 2025, 12:03:06 PM
Hm I shall forensically investigate this hypothesis later.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: David L on July 20, 2025, 01:05:35 PM
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on July 20, 2025, 11:58:14 AMBroken string on a floating bridge it seems. A few guitar tech savvies commenting on it saying it's a nightmare and throws everything out of tune.
I'm relieved to hear this explanation ;D
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Slim on July 20, 2025, 02:06:57 PM
Quote from: Slim on July 20, 2025, 12:03:06 PMHm I shall forensically investigate this hypothesis later.

Well it didn't take a lot of analysis .. this image was captured a few moments after he starts experimenting with note choices that would be considered courageous in avant garde jazz.

(https://i.ibb.co/xq37xBBc/alex-godin-solo.jpg)

None of the strings are broken. I played the same notes (same fret positions) as Alex did during this unusual phase of the solo on a properly tuned guitar, and the same pitches came out. I'm forced to conclude that it's not the guitar.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Nick on July 20, 2025, 03:28:03 PM
Other comments noted a bolt broke on the headstock, which is not good PR for his guitar brand.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Slim on July 20, 2025, 03:47:06 PM
Yes it looked like Alex was blaming the tuning keys, or one of them. But he was definitely getting the right notes out of the fret positions he was playing.

Reminded me of David Beckham blaming a bobble on the pitch for a missed penalty.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Nick on July 20, 2025, 04:05:39 PM
Back in tune post solo
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Fishy on July 20, 2025, 06:50:38 PM
 Blimey...
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Nick on July 20, 2025, 06:54:30 PM
Slight redemption


Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Slim on July 20, 2025, 07:05:32 PM
Amazing to hear him doing those same flashy runs and licks he used to do in Working Man 50 years ago.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on July 20, 2025, 08:31:20 PM
Maybe there was a fourth Rush guy hiding behind the amps after all.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on July 20, 2025, 08:34:36 PM
Quote from: Nick on July 20, 2025, 03:28:03 PMOther comments noted a bolt broke on the headstock, which is not good PR for his guitar brand.

Godin are (were) distributed over here by John Hornby Skewes who have just announced the winding up of the company. I wonder who'll buy the stock.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Matt2112 on July 26, 2025, 12:39:02 AM
Quote from: Slim on July 20, 2025, 03:47:06 PMYes it looked like Alex was blaming the tuning keys, or one of them. But he was definitely getting the right notes out of the fret positions he was playing.

Reminded me of David Beckham blaming a bobble on the pitch for a missed penalty.

Quote from: Slim on July 20, 2025, 02:06:57 PM
Quote from: Slim on July 20, 2025, 12:03:06 PMHm I shall forensically investigate this hypothesis later.

Well it didn't take a lot of analysis .. this image was captured a few moments after he starts experimenting with note choices that would be considered courageous in avant garde jazz.

(https://i.ibb.co/xq37xBBc/alex-godin-solo.jpg)

None of the strings are broken. I played the same notes (same fret positions) as Alex did during this unusual phase of the solo on a properly tuned guitar, and the same pitches came out. I'm forced to conclude that it's not the guitar.


Yes, I'm minded to agree, as much as I find it inconceivable he could mess it up.

For one thing, I don't believe there's a C note (B string 13th fret) anywhere in the solo as it's supposed to be played, whereas that image suggests he's using it.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on July 26, 2025, 01:03:00 AM
Quote from: Matt2112 on July 26, 2025, 12:39:02 AM
Quote from: Slim on July 20, 2025, 03:47:06 PMYes it looked like Alex was blaming the tuning keys, or one of them. But he was definitely getting the right notes out of the fret positions he was playing.

Reminded me of David Beckham blaming a bobble on the pitch for a missed penalty.

Quote from: Slim on July 20, 2025, 02:06:57 PM
Quote from: Slim on July 20, 2025, 12:03:06 PMHm I shall forensically investigate this hypothesis later.

Well it didn't take a lot of analysis .. this image was captured a few moments after he starts experimenting with note choices that would be considered courageous in avant garde jazz.

(https://i.ibb.co/xq37xBBc/alex-godin-solo.jpg)

None of the strings are broken. I played the same notes (same fret positions) as Alex did during this unusual phase of the solo on a properly tuned guitar, and the same pitches came out. I'm forced to conclude that it's not the guitar.


Yes, I'm minded to agree, as much as I find it inconceivable he could mess it up.

For one thing, I don't believe there's a C note (B string 13th fret) anywhere in the solo as it's supposed to be played, whereas that image suggests he's using it.

That's interesting and slightly worrying. I think I'll have another look at the Chris Shiflett YouTube interview with Alex where he does a detailed breakdown and description of the solo.
Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: David L on October 09, 2025, 12:48:29 AM
Here's an explanation from Yoyoka Soma who was playing drums, in the comments section:

Title: Re: Not for the faint hearted. Morello and Lifeson.
Post by: Slim on October 09, 2025, 08:37:11 AM
It's not plausible unfortunately.