For synth-heads with more money than sense. Sadly not me.
Geddy Lee teams up with Moog (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/technology/hardware-and-devices/geddy-lee-teams-up-with-moog-for-special-edition-satin-red-minimoog-model-d-with-hot-rodded-vca-circuit/ar-AA1Bk5bQ)
(https://assets.exclaim.ca/dr2uqw6xy/image/upload/c_limit,w_890/f_auto/q_auto/geddy_Lee_minimoog_0125ed4c78?_a=BAVAfVIB0)
That instrument sounds incredibly dated now in those songs, but that's part of their charm in the present day for me really.
Funny that he thinks that song is called 'I See Red' :)
Actually, broadening the conversation a bit - I do think that it was to the detriment of the band that Geddy tried to do so much with keyboards. He wasn't a good player and in a live setting especially he overreached. I don't think he managed to hold it all together enough to keep the vibe of a performing band, if you see what I mean. He had so much more fun on the first couple of tours when he was just nudging the Taurus pedals occasionally.
What they should have done is hire a touring keyboard player. Lots of bands have done that.
Why?
Knock £4k off the price and I'd be in there :)
Quote from: Fishy on March 21, 2025, 09:39:50 AMWhy?
Would have made, I believe, for a more enjoyable experience for the fans, leaving Geddy to play bass and sing. They were so much better live when he wasn't trying to keep across banks of keyboards.
Quote from: Slim on March 21, 2025, 01:38:39 PMQuote from: Fishy on March 21, 2025, 09:39:50 AMWhy?
Would have made, I believe, for a more enjoyable experience for the fans, leaving Geddy to play bass and sing. They were so much better live when he wasn't trying to keep across banks of keyboards.
Was at one time sort of their business model though: look! the fabulous band with the dude that does vocal, bass AND keys at the same time!
Quote from: Slim on March 21, 2025, 01:38:39 PMQuote from: Fishy on March 21, 2025, 09:39:50 AMWhy?
Would have made, I believe, for a more enjoyable experience for the fans, leaving Geddy to play bass and sing. They were so much better live when he wasn't trying to keep across banks of keyboards.
Sorry was wondering why was he bothering teaming up with moog
You'll be relieved to learn that my paragraph on Behringer clones and Arturia soft synths got binned by this Samsung tablet before posting. I hate Android!!!
Oh...it's actually pronounced "Moag", is it? I've been under the wrong impression for only about 45 years, then.
Geddy used to pronounce it Moog until recently
I wish they'd shown more of him noodling away to those tunes though. The price is nuts. The Behringer Poly D clone can be bought for £569 and is reportedly pretty close to the real thing. If you buy all Behringer, the Wave, UB-Xa, Poly D and their Minotaur module, you can have a brilliant rig just like,e Geddy's from the 80s and have change from £2000. Go original, PPG3, Oberheim, Minimoog and Taurus and you're over £20K. I don't know how Behringer do it, or are allowed to but I'm very tempted.
Edit: Alternatively there's Arturia Analog Lab Pro which has all those synths and more in software form for around £150 and sometimes half that when on sale. Something I really like is Rush Keys Deluxe by Allan Lobo who has programmed all the famous Geddy synth sounds including Taurus for use with Arturia Analog Lab. Looks great fun.
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 21, 2025, 06:09:44 PMOh...it's actually pronounced "Moag", is it? I've been under the wrong impression for only about 45 years, then.
Yes, I found this out a while back.Probably one of the most mis-pronounced words in modern (music-related) parlance.
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 21, 2025, 06:09:44 PMOh...it's actually pronounced "Moag", is it? I've been under the wrong impression for only about 45 years, then.
I've known that for years, but still say it like a bovine noise with a "g" at the end. It's how it's spelt innit.
Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 21, 2025, 09:13:40 PMQuote from: Matt2112 on March 21, 2025, 06:09:44 PMOh...it's actually pronounced "Moag", is it? I've been under the wrong impression for only about 45 years, then.
I've known that for years, but still say it like a bovine noise with a "g" at the end. It's how it's spelt innit.
Nop might disagree with our insistence on cattle impersonation.
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on March 22, 2025, 11:53:28 AMQuote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 21, 2025, 09:13:40 PMQuote from: Matt2112 on March 21, 2025, 06:09:44 PMOh...it's actually pronounced "Moag", is it? I've been under the wrong impression for only about 45 years, then.
I've known that for years, but still say it like a bovine noise with a "g" at the end. It's how it's spelt innit.
Nop might disagree with our insistence on cattle impersonation.
Meh (see what I did there?), I am ok with the Moog pronounced incorrect. Not in the last place because I too did so...
Moag, don't know. Feels like Moag-ue, making it a fancy instrument.
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on March 21, 2025, 07:02:14 PMAlternatively there's Arturia Analog Lab Pro which has all those synths and more in software form for around £150 and sometimes half that when on sale. Something I really like is Rush Keys Deluxe by Allan Lobo who has programmed all the famous Geddy synth sounds including Taurus for use with Arturia Analog Lab. Looks great fun.
I've just taken a look at the Rush Keys Deluxe (https://www.allanlobo.net/rush-keys-deluxe) website. Mightily impressed and it must have been a tremendous amount of work to build all those presets. Thanks for the heads-up about that 8)
From what I can tell you don't need full blown Analog Lab to import the presets according to the website blurb. I've got Analog Lab Intro (a licence was included with my Arturia Minilab 3) and this will do the trick. In fact the free Play version will also work, so I think you would only actually need to fork out for that Presets pack.
Quote from: R6GYY on March 22, 2025, 08:03:12 PMQuote from: The Picnic Wasp on March 21, 2025, 07:02:14 PMAlternatively there's Arturia Analog Lab Pro which has all those synths and more in software form for around £150 and sometimes half that when on sale. Something I really like is Rush Keys Deluxe by Allan Lobo who has programmed all the famous Geddy synth sounds including Taurus for use with Arturia Analog Lab. Looks great fun.
I've just taken a look at the Rush Keys Deluxe (https://www.allanlobo.net/rush-keys-deluxe) website. Mightily impressed and it must have been a tremendous amount of work to build all those presets. Thanks for the heads-up about that 8)
From what I can tell you don't need full blown Analog Lab to import the presets according to the website blurb. I've got Analog Lab Intro (a licence was included with my Arturia Minilab 3) and this will do the trick. In fact the free Play version will also work, so I think you would only actually need to fork out for that Presets pack.
Thanks Reg. I was planning to buy a Minilab in the not too distant future as a part of my desk tidy up. I originally planned to go for the Keylab Essential which too includes software, but at 49 Keys I wasn't achieving the workspace I so badly need so I'm delighted to learn that the Minilab is perfectly workable. I wonder if I'll ever buy a set of midi footpedals, or is that just a sad step to far? This stuff was all just fantasy daydream material in my true Rush addiction days. I sometimes still can't take in that all this is achievable without leaving the house. Wish I could write decent songs though. I think (some of) the lyrics are alright!
Quote from: Thenop on March 22, 2025, 03:04:58 PMQuote from: The Picnic Wasp on March 22, 2025, 11:53:28 AMQuote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 21, 2025, 09:13:40 PMQuote from: Matt2112 on March 21, 2025, 06:09:44 PMOh...it's actually pronounced "Moag", is it? I've been under the wrong impression for only about 45 years, then.
I've known that for years, but still say it like a bovine noise with a "g" at the end. It's how it's spelt innit.
Nop might disagree with our insistence on cattle impersonation.
Meh (see what I did there?), I am ok with the Moog pronounced incorrect. Not in the last place because I too did so...
Moag, don't know. Feels like Moag-ue, making it a fancy instrument.
Apologies, Nop. I mistakenly guessed that Moog was a Dutch surname and thought that Moag was how it should be said. But what I've now read suggests it is German. I'm going to stick with Minimoooog though. I prefer its familiarity. I'm still trying to find the article or video where Geddy mentions his error. Maybe it's in his effing memoir.
I like this thread. ;D
Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 21, 2025, 10:59:15 AMKnock £4k off the price and I'd be in there :)
You can knock £4.43K off if you buy a Behringer Poly D. It's the same synth. Looks the same, sounds the same. It's a bit like the story about a duck's sound and appearance.
QuoteI'm delighted to learn that the Minilab is perfectly workable.
Just be aware that I am not a musician as such. I just like to play with chords and make sounds. The Minilab 3 is only a 2 octave keyboard so you won't be doing any church organ recitals, although I did take advantage of an IK Multimedia sale a while back to get their stunning Hammond B-3X (https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/hammondb3x/) virtual instrument for less than half price. Cracking cheese Gromit.
I've just learned that Leominster is actually correctly pronounced as "Lemster".
That's two life-altering revelations in a week.
Sorry - carry on.
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on March 22, 2025, 10:54:35 PMQuote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 21, 2025, 10:59:15 AMKnock £4k off the price and I'd be in there :)
You can knock £4.43K off if you buy a Behringer Poly D. It's the same synth. Looks the same, sounds the same. It's a bit like the story about a duck's sound and appearance.
Still a bit pricy for me. I'm looking at one of these:
https://www.korg.co.uk/products/nts-1mk2
Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 23, 2025, 09:53:19 PMQuote from: The Picnic Wasp on March 22, 2025, 10:54:35 PMQuote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 21, 2025, 10:59:15 AMKnock £4k off the price and I'd be in there :)
You can knock £4.43K off if you buy a Behringer Poly D. It's the same synth. Looks the same, sounds the same. It's a bit like the story about a duck's sound and appearance.
Still a bit pricy for me. I'm looking at one of these:
https://www.korg.co.uk/products/nts-1mk2
Or maybe a comb and some Izal toilet paper.
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on March 23, 2025, 11:18:27 PMQuote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 23, 2025, 09:53:19 PMQuote from: The Picnic Wasp on March 22, 2025, 10:54:35 PMQuote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 21, 2025, 10:59:15 AMKnock £4k off the price and I'd be in there :)
You can knock £4.43K off if you buy a Behringer Poly D. It's the same synth. Looks the same, sounds the same. It's a bit like the story about a duck's sound and appearance.
Still a bit pricy for me. I'm looking at one of these:
https://www.korg.co.uk/products/nts-1mk2
Or maybe a comb and some Izal toilet paper.
That's purely for cleaning my arse after a good dump :)
Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 23, 2025, 09:53:19 PMStill a bit pricy for me. I'm looking at one of these:
https://www.korg.co.uk/products/nts-1mk2
Nick - this is currently on offer in Amazon's "Spring Sale".
Quote from: R6GYY on March 25, 2025, 12:09:35 PMQuote from: Nickslikk2112 on March 23, 2025, 09:53:19 PMStill a bit pricy for me. I'm looking at one of these:
https://www.korg.co.uk/products/nts-1mk2
Nick - this is currently on offer in Amazon's "Spring Sale".
Thanks Reg, but I noticed that this morning, it's heading my way :)